Oliver (Amir) session with Lawrence
January 16/17

Developing an energy exchange; Aphantasia; Pushing vs. flowing; breaking the cycle of Anxiety; validating impression about ancient Egypt.



L: Good Morning!

O: Good Morning, very nice meeting you.

L: I am really looking forward to our interaction as well.

O: Very nice. I prepared a whole bunch of questions and then to my delight I have a spontaneous one. I thought I felt your energy around 9:36 a.m. this morning. I am wondering if you could validate that and perhaps comment on it. Because maybe I picked up at a certain point your energy or a certain aspect of it..?

L: Yes, this is quite correct. And this is not unusual either in some individuals that are more receptive to my energy. And this occurs also with other energy exchanges. The individual, in anticipation of an interaction, may sense the energy of that essence that they are intending to interact with some time period before.

O: And is it the time that I marked down, could you verify that?
L: Yes.

O: OK

L: I will explain to you that generally, when Lystell has scheduled an interaction with myself and with someone else, that I generally make myself available and known to Lystell approximately 1 hour or so before the scheduled time and because of your interconnectedness and knowledge, you too can also be aware of that. It is not so much a matter of myself projecting the energy into you, it is more of a factor of you opening yourself to it and I can allow that.

O: OK, I see. Very nice. As an introduction or at the beginning, the way that I would like to proceed today is starting with some personal questions then moving outside of myself. And when it comes to those initial personal questions, what I would like to ask from you is to answer in consideration of my particular focus and not so much in general terms.

L: Very well.

O: My first question is, in regards to my greatest possible potential, in the context of my intent, from your perspective, which question would be the most beneficial to ask myself and for me to ask you?

L: (Silence) I would express that there maybe be more than one subject that is of benefit to you, that would depend on your definition of benefit and in which way you view that. However, I would express that currently you may be interested in exploring new directions or at the very least considering choices in new directions.

O: Correct.

L: You may continue.

O: So, what would be…my question to reiterate: what would you, from your perspective, think that I should ask myself? Like what question should I put into my own head and consider and find my own answer to, in the context of what we just said? And what question do you think would be the best for me to ask you?

L: This is largely a matter of your own personal choice. And I would ask you, is there a particular subject that would most interest you presently?

O: There certainly are subjects that interest me but I feel like if I make the selection your answers will only be as good as my questions. That is why I am asking maybe you have a good question. And the context, I feel like, which is very broad, which gives you a lot of choices in it, but at the same time specific, in that it is about my intent and the potential I have in, within that intent and in expressing that intent. Or, am I too general here, do I need to be more specific?

L: I would say that being more specific would be more beneficial to you.

O: OK let’s put them in the context of developing energy exchange.

L: In this, I would begin by asking you what activities you have engaged in pursuing this interest.

O: I have been practicing meditation, in acceptance, in awareness and presence.

L: These are all excellent practices and they are a benefit not just in energy exchange but also to you generally. Allowing an energy exchange is just that, it is fundamentally just that, it is a matter of allowing. To some extent it is also familiarizing yourself with the essence’s energy. Now at this point, have you have any indications that you have engaged in essences to some extent, even minor?

O: No, I believe I might have with a focus of mine, but not with an outside energy.
L: Very well. I would suggest then, to begin, it is a matter of opening yourself to another energy as well as expressing that desire, as well as trusting that you will accomplish that. There is, shall we say, no shortage of essences that are willing to engage in an energy exchange. It is not a matter that one particular essence that is just the one for you, that has to be located. Some essences, once they begin an energy exchange with a particular focus, do then maintain that relationship exclusively for as long as the focus remains engaged in that. However, that does not preclude interactions with that essence in other capacities. Additionally, there are many, many more essences that will quite willingly engage you and to begin the realization of this will help you to be more open to that and not feel as if you need to find some very particular essence. For likely, there already is an essence or multiple essences that do have an interest in your focus. And it should be relatively simple for you to engage one of those or multiples of those. It is a matter then of being present, being calm and relaxed and most of all, being allowing of that energy to enter you and to interact with you.

O: So, could you say, that even so I am interested, open and focused on this (for a while now) and I have not experienced this, or I am not aware of it, could you say what in particular, in my case, maybe is blocking that or standing in the way of that taking place?

L: One element that this is, perhaps that you have given the subject something of an importance and in itself an importance does not limit your ability to accomplish that what you have given importance to, but it can though easily become, or rather move your focus to, your attention to the lack of accomplishment. It is for this reason that often myself and others have expressed, and in order to accomplish a particular experience, it is best to simply relax and allow it to occur rather be preoccupied as to whether it will happen or not. And additionally, I would suggest to you that you do practice your meditations, which could simply be a state of presence and in that state of meditation or presence would be an ideal time to open yourself to those other energies and also at the same time, to express your desire and intent to engage to another essence. And initially, it may be a very subtle invitation that you have and it could be by way of an image, it could be by way of a physical sensation. And the image may not be one that you would say is very objective or maybe one that simply is what you might call abstract and whatever indication you do receive, then acknowledge it and follow it. It may lead you somewhere.

O: OK, which is interesting and leads me to my next question. Recently, I have come across a term that is called, or a condition, that is called “Aphantasia” which is the inability to willfully conjure up visual images in your mind. And I believe this is what is the case with me. I do not see visual imagery in my mind. That doesn’t mean I cannot, so to speak, envision objects or spaces or situations but as you just said, it is very abstract and it is not visual. Could you confirm, in that way that it differs to what maybe a lot of other focuses would be capable of, or, is it just that other people would talk about it differently?

L: I would express that every individual has their own specific way in which they engage their imagination and in this, some individuals are more inclined towards visualization, literally, in that they can easily create within their minds quite detailed images of what is it they are imagining. For other individuals it may be more in terms of detailed information that may then appear to them as a thought, it may appear to them as a simply a knowing of what it is that they are imagining. Other individuals it may even be by way of sound. It is very specific to everyone. I would express that for most individuals, it is a kind of visualization that is somewhere in between very lucid and very abstract. A lot depends on individual’s memory and their familiarity with the scene or the object if they have already objectively visualized the object of the imagination, then clearly, it will be easier for them to imagine it. For example, if the imagination includes another individual that the person is familiar with, then it is relatively easy for most individuals to imagine the facial expressions or a conversation with that other individual.

O: Right. So, OK, then let me move on. I wondering if you have any comments about a tendency I have where I believe that I am caught in a bit of a loop of building up pressure of accomplishment on myself and yet, in reaction, going into avoidance of pressure and in that way, not experiencing accomplishment so much. Or, an imagery that comes into my head a lot is that I feel like that I am on the gas and on the brakes at the same time. So I am pushing and I am resisting. I wondering if you have any comments about that, how I could move out of that.

L: Very well. Now, you have just used the word pushing. And that might be a clue to you. Your reaction to not wanting to go in that direction because of your discomfort with it is, in a way, quite genuine. It is you telling yourself that there is a better way. And this pressure and pushing that you feel within yourself, which is essentially a strong want to accomplish something, is something that can be approached in a different manner, perhaps that you would then feel more comfortable with. And once you feel more comfortable with the way in which you are approaching that subject then you will no longer feel that resistance to engaging in it. Again, this is one of the more difficult aspects that individuals experience when they want to create something, to generate an experience that they want. It is that the desire itself becomes intense and it becomes an urgency or it becomes too forceful. And as you are aware, all these aspects of forcing and urgency and high importance - in actuality, they are forms of struggle. In actuality, they are forms of focusing your attention on difficulties instead of ease. And you have of course, heard of flowing and allowing and these words can seem abstract and ineffective. And to some extent this is part of your belief systems where you feel that those kinds of actions, of flowing and allowing, are ineffective, they are weak, they lack substance. These all center on your religious beliefs to some extent. And I am not speaking generally of you specifically, but that is the core source of these beliefs. For it is a belief that good is weak and that bad is strong. Therefore it is natural for individuals to have some hesitation in engaging allowance and in engaging flowing. For it is quite common for them to believe that this lacks substance, that this lacks direction, it is not going to accomplish because it is not specific enough. And they feel that accomplishing something requires strong objective action. And occasionally, objective action is required and I would express in most cases, at some point, objective action is required. But, it will be well known to you when that is the case. Therefore, again, it is with yourself, a matter of trusting yourself that you are accomplishing, and you will accomplish and in so with doing, you will present yourself with choices that will guide you in the direction you want to go, you will be aware of those choices. There are several factors, involved in this, there are many factors involved in this. One is your state of presence, for in presence you are more open to your choices. You see your choices more clearly. Additionally, you are more trusting of yourself and this is a very significant element in accomplishing anything. And additionally, when you are present, you are more relaxed and this tends to foster flowing and allowing. Are you understanding?

O: Yes, I do understand in general terms. And I am curious if there is something specifically in my psychology and makeup and personality that can guide me in that direction.

L: I would express to you that there is nothing specifically with your personality or your beliefs that are prohibiting you. I think that it’s more a matter of you trusting yourself more fundamentally and being more relaxed about the subject areas that you wish to accomplish in. I would not express to you that there is a particular aspect of you that is very prominent in disallowing you. I would say that what you are experiencing is actually very common with most individuals. And I have had many discussions similar to this with others: they all wish to accomplish in some way, or many ways and they feel that because of their knowledge with how they generate their experiences, their knowledge of their perception and all this information that they now have available, that they feel that it should be much easier to accomplish and it can be. In a way, it is very simple the way in which you generate your experience. Based on your attention, based on your beliefs and your intent and your choices. It sounds all fundamental and very simple. In actuality, in the dimension that you are engaged in, you collectively generate many complications. For you believe in processes, you believe that accomplishing requires significant amounts of objective activity and to some extent you do not trust yourself. You do understand the information that has been expressed regarding your perception, regarding how you create your reality. It is now more a matter of living that and not complicating it. For example, one way in which individuals complicate their creations is to begin to project into the future, complications by worrying, by pondering what happens if and all of these kind of expressions complicates things. They push away from you what you desire. That is why I express to you that it is fundamentally about allowing and flowing as well as your intention.

O: OK, thank you. I would like to move on to some specific questions that are first related to me and then to some people close to me in regards to health issues. The last days, and also partially, weeks, I have been feeling, maybe even say more energetically but also physically, very weak, very tired and I have a strong ringing in my ears. Do you have any comments on the causes and what it is or what the information I am trying to relay to myself and what the resolution of that would be?

L: What is your impression on this?

O: I think it has to do with the pressure that I am putting myself under.

L: I would agree. And this relates to our conversation.

O: Yes, Ok, then that validates my own impression and I think it answers it. Thank you. In regards to XXX (name removed), she is experiencing an irregular heartbeat for the last few weeks. She is concerned about it but also understands that it is not something to be just focused on as a physical manifestation. In the same manner, do you have any insights on what is causing it and how she could respond to it?

L: The response, is as has been expressed, is not to concern yourself with it. And that would also be a personal choice for that individual. It is, as with all manifestations within your body consciousness, a matter of, first of all, not worrying, not focusing your attention upon it, which is what worrying does, this of course, is primary. Additionally, if the individual is in discomfort with the condition…let me begin with that: is there discomfort with this?

O: I think that she goes into fear and that fear adds to the unpleasantness of the experience. Also, she is aware of that. But can you speak of what it is in particular, in her case, causes this imagery and what this imagery is trying to tell her?

L: I would express that this manifestation within that body consciousness is stress related, having to do with anxiety. Again, it is a matter of relaxing, of avoiding worry and attention upon the manifestation itself but also addressing to the fear and anxiety. And of course, in this situation it is somewhat circular in that the manifestation has now drawn her attention to the condition and the condition then in itself generating fear. To break this cycle would be simply, or one possible way if the individual is accepting of that, they may want to reassure themselves of the integrity of the body consciousness and reassure themselves that the body consciousness, whenever allowed, acts to maintain its own integrity to function normally. And that any manifestation within body consciousness, as with all experiences, it is a matter of the individual’s intentions and beliefs. And therefore she may gain some comfort from those facts and know that in itself, to begin, this condition is not anything that will develop into something more serious. It is to some extent, I would not say normal, but it is to some extent, common and to feel more comfortable about it and feel that it is not something that is life threatening or likely to develop into something else. And depending on the individual’s belief systems, if they have supportive beliefs in your medical system, then do engage in that. It very much depends on the individual.

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O: Now, I have a number of impressions I am wondering if you could validate them or comment or expand on them as you feel fit.

Is one of my focuses a Sufi master in Iran?

L: Yes.

O: is his name Shah Nemathollah Vali?

L: I would express approximately, yes.

O: Can you expand why you say ‘approximately’?

L: I will express to you that this is a subject area that is somewhat difficult for Lystell to engage in presently.

O: Ah, OK. Right. Would it resonate with your own interest to continue in asking those questions in this direction?

L: Presently, it is not a matter of my interest; I am interested in providing you information. It is more of limitations with Lystell and his concern with distortion on these specific subjects.

O: Ah, OK. Now these are impressions I am having but obviously I am also looking for validation. Let’s see. I will just go down the list and see how it goes. Because what I am wondering if this individual is…because I have a very clear image about him, living in the desert, is that desert the Lut desert (Dasht-e Loot)?

L: It is …our impression this individual is from a different time frame.

O: Yes, very much so.

L: And, perhaps the area you would call Central Asia today…is there further information you would want?

O: Oh, ok, so if you cannot narrow it in that is fine. Another focus, I am wondering, of mine, is a traveler by the name of William George Brown, this would be the late 1700s, English.

L: And you are inquiring as to this being a focus of yours?

O: Yes.

L: I would express that your focus is not this specific individual but is involved with this individual.

O: Ok, The oracle of Siwa, an Oasis in the Egyptian desert near Libya, at the time of Alexander the Great, who visited this Oracle. Was I the Oracle at that time?

L: No.
O: I wasn’t?

L: You were present, at that location and that time frame and involved in some extend with that Oracle.
O: Hmm, ok because I have a clear impression, and maybe you can validate that, the feeling was that Alexander the Great went to this Oracle and he had a reading behind closed doors and private and when he came out I think he very much misrepresented what was said to him, for his own interest. So he used that for his own political advantage what he represented publicly, but he was actually told things that he didn’t talk and bout and that where not in line with what he presented.

L: And that is your impression?

O: Yes

L: I would say that that is correct.

O: Ok. During the Amana period in Egypt which was on the surface, or maybe not just on the surface, it was very much a revolutionary movement against the priesthood of Amun. And I know that Amun is one of my focuses. But I do believe that I was actually a part and probably an instrumental part in the opposition to the priesthood of Amun. Could you validate that?

L: You where however…, you took a more passive role in that.

O: Hmm ok. So more observing

L: Not just observing, just not that openly.

O: And would the reason be for that that I am interested in observing, or would anybody be interested in observing, let’s say they are on one side of an issue and there is maybe more than just the likelihood that they would find themselves on the other side of an issue?

L: You are speaking generally?

O: I am speaking generally…..I mean was that the reason why I found myself also opposing the establishment so to speak but which was very much around Amun? Or where there other reasons as well why I was on the other side at that period and those developments?

L: It was a matter of you being displeased with that other assembly.

O: hmm

L: and disagreeing with its conduct.

O: So that this failed that this revolutionary movement, or it appears in the history that I am aware of that it failed, and it went back to a strong worship of Amun afterwards. So would you say that it was more an attempt of a regeneration, and it was never really an attempt at replacing? Or there was a sincere attempt at replacing but that failed?
L: It was an attempt at change. And it was desired that initially the change be enacted within the existing structure. However eventually those that where initiating the change or wanting the change became frustrated in their attempts to do so and eventually there attention was focused instead at replacing the individuals.

O: Because it appears to me as far as I am aware of it was one of the first monotheistic revolutions that happened in the history that I am aware of. And also a period of also like a resonance of focus on actual material representation instead of symbolic representation in the art world. So within that whole movement a lot of unique and interesting things happened. So was that development inherent at that time and it just found expression in that movement and those changes or.. I am not sure if I know what I am asking here. I am trying to figure out if this was part of the intent or if this was an unforeseen outcome of this movement?

L: The individuals involved in that movement where concerned only with their specific goals, which was to change the existing regime. Either in the way it operated or by changing the individuals involved in it. Their goal was simply that. It did however, these actions to some extent, encourage other similar actions, at a later timeframe.

O: so it encouraged other people to basically come out with other more radical or diverging ideas that were not allowed in the context of what was established before?

L: It was an encouragement to express their disenchantment and their desire for change.

O: OK, thank you, it’s something I am fascinated with this. My impression is that the stone Lapis Lazuli was often used to gain advantage over people and situations? Is this something you could verify?

L: It was a religious artifact, and like many other facets of religion both in that timeframe and more recent time frames, religion was frequently used as an expression of power and suppression.

O: Hmhm, right. Can I ask one more question?

L: You may.

O: There was an encounter I had with a person, in Amsterdam I think it was in 1991. That encounter was very brief it was on a public road and it left a strong impression on me. And the impression I had was that I was meeting a possible or potential self. And I am wondering of you could either validate this or you could say who or what that person was?

L: To begin I will validate that, and that other individual would have been a concurrent focus of yours.

O: ok, so he is in this time frameworks he is a parallel focus, I mean we are all parallel focuses, I mean he is in the same time framework as I?

L: Correct.

O: Wow, ok. Did he have the same impression of me?

L: Did he have an awareness of this? Not to the extent that you are.

O: Because I feel like it did change a path of my life, it had an impact on choices that I made.

L: very well.

O: thank you so much for your input and your insights and your help and your kindness.

L: You are quite welcome. And we have enjoyed our interactions with you as well and we wish you a good day.

O: Thank you, all the best to you.